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READ AT YOUR OWN RISK, JLU - "Destroyer" Pt.2

Nate

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Posted on 19-02-2006 16:16

REVIEW:
This is it! The second part of the two part finale, the last one. Just like Part 1 before it:

THIS IS SPOILER FILLED.

I'LL TRY TO LIMIT IT BUT YOU WILL BE SPOILED.

IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT, GET OUT!!!!!!!

OTHERWISE, YOU ARE HERE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

AND LET'S FACE IT, FOR THIS EPISODE I'AM NOT HOLDING BACK.

SO BE WARNED!

Alright? Let's go....

Superman has no choice but to believe Luthor saying Darkseid has returned. He explians that he and the ones who survived were thanks to Sinestro and Lightray from New Genesis. Before the JLU can put the villians into holdign cells, Boom Tubes start to appear on Earth and Darkseid's army comes to attack every city on the planet. Both the JLU and Legion have no choice but to work together, with the deal that everyone will go back to regular business once its done. With that, every JLU member and Legion member go into action.

Superman, Batman & Luthor go to the most protective mothership that is hovering above the Daily Planet. Where Darkseid is. Once they take out the monsters, Darkseid appears saying that they're actions will cause every life, then he says "let's go". Luthor is thrown off by Darkseid and Batman saves him, with just Superman and Darkseid on top. Darkseid throws the globe of the Daily Planet at him, exploding the building in the process. Its revealed that the ships are carrying drills to go down to the Earth's core. Making Earth another Apokolips.

Superman & Batman & Luthor help each other defeat Darkseid. While Batman and Luthor fight the monsters, Superman delivers a right clock to Darkseid's face. An old man leaves his wife helps Wonder Woman while she is against it. Until the old man morphs into a dragon and then back into his own form: J'onn J'onzz aka Martian Manhunter.

Batman helps Superman but once he and Luthor are gone somewhere, Darkseid beats Superman to the ground. Then holds him up and slams his back on to his knee. All in a while, Metron has been watching the fight. Luthor demans him to help and says theres only one way and takes Luthor with him. The World's Finest still help each other, using better actions to beat Darkseid without him knowing. Then Superman explains that he's been holding back the whole time and wants to show him how powerful he really is; and he punches Darkseid, throwing him away to the middle of the city. Catches him again and throws him to the streets.

Then Darkseid throws to Superman the agony matrix, which gives Superman unlimited pain. All seems lost until Luthor returns to give Darkseid something: the anti-life equation. Once he and Luthor holds it, its waves erupt from the area and spreads. Superman and Batman leave then the area explodes. Luthor and Darkseid are gone.

News spreads of Darkseid's defeat. Superman thinks Luthor is dead but Batman doesn't believe so. The rest of the league agrees as this has happened before. The villians argue that even as they helped them, they're still going to jail. Superman and Batman smile and give them a 5-minute head start.

With Wonder Woman says "the adventure continues", the heroes run towards the camera.

THE END

I'm gonna cry, this was a great ending. Even the last five minutes and its music add that to me to shed tears. The DCAU....no, TB and TT are DCAU also so the Timmverse has ended.

The ultimate battle between good and evil continued here as Legion helped the heroes and vice versa. At first, I thought this was going to be an un-holy alliance but it wasn't. Its obivious on the heroes helpign the villians but once a hero got hurt, the villian saved them. That was a surprise.

The REAL stars was the World's Finest; Superman & Batman. Since the whole Timmverse started with Batman: The Animated Series and Superman: The Animated Series, it seemed right to give them the final episode to start in the most. Last season's finale had the ending give to the 7 main League members to end their show, plus they had the great Flash/Brainiac fight. But even that didn't feel like "the end" to me, this was perfect.

This episode had the best moments in JLU. From Superman showing how powerful he was to Darkseid to Luthor's scenes at the end. I thought this was going to add some more to a finale but it didn't. There was no conclusions to the relationships, but it was still deeply moving.

It would've been stupid if the fight between Superman and Darkseid was quick and easy. Good thing it wasn't. Timm's Superman is Byrne's Post-Crisis Superman, not the Pre-Crisis over powered version. Batman had some great moments too. Him saying about havign a gun isn't his style is of course him, but I felt this was also due to the actions Deadman did to him in Dead Reckoning. Not much though, my thoughts go there.

The return of J'onn, that was expected. Either he was going to be in the fights or seen from the sidelines. Either way, him in the last episode had to happen because...it had to.

Well thats the good things, the rest is so-so. Because this was just another episode, it didn't feel like a finale. Darkseid at first seem great for the end, but later on it seemed like what was the point? Sometimes while it was nice to get another season, I felt it shouldv'e ended with last one's. That was a "the end". Of course, its my opinion. Epilogue is the true finale to the timmverse.

In closing, this episode closes the door on the Timmverse. I'll miss it, and even others will. While I still like TB, it still has ways to go coming from the restricitions it has as a kid's show. But it exists today because a WB exec asked a Tiny Toons animator named Bruce Timm if he wanted to do Batman.

It led to the great BTAS. Then they returned for STAS. And there wasn't actually a Timmverse until Batman appeared in STAS leading to TNBA. Then the future came into the DCAU with Batman Beyond. Then back with Justice League and finally Justice League Unlimited.

16 years of greatness.

Now, this is the end. We'll miss you.

RATING: 7.9/10

As a special bonus, I did a tribute music video of the DCAU. Its for fans who feel sad of the end of it all. This music video and its feelings is what everyone else feels right now after hearing about this episode.

Enjoy.

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1MIEC6MIOHK9X11LK3EQNVFHOR

You don't get it, boy... this isn't a mudhole... it's an operating table.
(crack!)
And I'm the surgeon.
- Batman - The Dark Knight Returns

Edited by Nate on 19-02-2006 18:11

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Posted on 19-02-2006 19:17

sweet vid nate, I'll have to wait till I see the ep so I can truly appreciate it all

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RE: READ AT YOUR OWN RISK, JLU - "Destroyer" Pt.2

Nate

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Posted on 19-02-2006 21:10

Remember, this ISN'T the finale. Epilogue is.

You don't get it, boy... this isn't a mudhole... it's an operating table.
(crack!)
And I'm the surgeon.
- Batman - The Dark Knight Returns

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Posted on 20-02-2006 09:18

epilogue, the one that already showed? teh batman beyond episode?

that was a sweet episode...

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Posted on 20-02-2006 12:51

This episode was great, but not quite Cadmus material. Goodbye JLU, we will miss you.

rate 9.5/10...Cadmus was a 10/10.

I now have no reason to watch Cartoon Network...just Boomerang.

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Posted on 20-02-2006 23:31

I guess all good things must come to an end. Looking foward to the episode.

I want to watch that video really bad, but it wouldn't run right, it kept stopping and coming back on.

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Nate

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Posted on 03-03-2006 01:26

For anyone who has seen that Tribute video I made with my review: I'm gon a remake it to something better and a perfect song that fans are feeling now.

So if you saw it, delete it. If you didn't, well see it anyway 'til the next one comes.

UPDATE 3/2/06

Here is the new DCAU tribute:
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=35PZ9TKRCSZZN02QIEV9JI5HOV

You don't get it, boy... this isn't a mudhole... it's an operating table.
(crack!)
And I'm the surgeon.
- Batman - The Dark Knight Returns

Edited by Nate on 03-03-2006 20:49

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Nate

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Posted on 08-03-2006 16:17

Nobody on the new Tribute?

You don't get it, boy... this isn't a mudhole... it's an operating table.
(crack!)
And I'm the surgeon.
- Batman - The Dark Knight Returns

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Posted on 08-03-2006 17:33

Nate wrote:
Nobody on the new Tribute?

vids not working nate, maybe try reposting it

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Nate

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Posted on 08-03-2006 18:32

Repost:

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3BHZTSXA8IQQW17QFMYUZAQAK7

You don't get it, boy... this isn't a mudhole... it's an operating table.
(crack!)
And I'm the surgeon.
- Batman - The Dark Knight Returns

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Posted on 17-03-2006 13:11

Nate wrote:
Remember, this ISN'T the finale. Epilogue is.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, verily.

Why would the finale to the series be in at the end of the second season? Destroyer is the finale.

Epilogue just had a flash to the future. By the same logic the first episode would the the one where they traveled back in time not Secret Origins.

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Posted on 17-03-2006 13:24

I think what he means, is that as for the Timm/Dini Universe, Epilogue is the last. It ends it. Just as Leather Wings started it.

To me, Epilogue is just that. It doesn't fit into any season, it's it's own ep (does that make sense?)

While Destroyer is the end of the JLU series, the other is the end. .. guess I'm going in circles, but I understand what he was saying. And to a point, I agree.

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Posted on 18-03-2006 21:52

Nate wrote:
For anyone who has seen that Tribute video I made with my review: I'm gon a remake it to something better and a perfect song that fans are feeling now.

So if you saw it, delete it. If you didn't, well see it anyway 'til the next one comes.

UPDATE 3/2/06

Here is the new DCAU tribute:
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=35PZ9TKRCSZZN02QIEV9JI5HOV

I wish the link u provided worked regularly....I've only gotten it to work once or twice. I think my IE is defective.

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Posted on 19-03-2006 05:32

I didn't really like Destroyer, but Epilogue rocked my socks off. I didn't think Destroyer was a proper finale at all. What happens to John and Shayera? What about the rumoured Batman and Wonder Woman romance? None of that was explored. And that 'five minute headstart' Batman gave the villains at the end? Absolute trash. Batman would never do that. These people are killers, not pickpockets. You don't give killers headstarts.

In the shadows I saw my destiny...
I would seek justice...
I would have my revenge...

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Posted on 19-03-2006 08:30

batman found friends, so now hes happier. and besides, a headstart wont do much. with like a gajillion heroes...lol.

i wanted to see a JLU beyond sorta thing. like everyone starts to get older, bruce puts on the beyond suit, superman puts on the black suit, and then yeah...everyone puts on their future suits and they all walk out or something. perfect ending!

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Posted on 19-03-2006 13:13

that would have been pretty sweet. would have been a nice little nod to batman beyond and stuff