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batmania
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| Posted on 30-01-2007 17:00 |
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I've noticed that with a great deal of my Batman vehicles I have inconsistant logo decals. With a couple I got the movie logo and with others I received the black bat on and a flat gold oval. In all the box pics as well as the catalog pics they used the movie logo. What gives? Did it cost more to produce the movie logo? I do have to say that even though Toy Biz takes a beating on the quality end they did at least have the movie logo on everything. How about you all? Have any of you went back and replaced the plain decals with the movie logo decals? I dunno why this irks me but it's just one of those things.
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| Posted on 30-01-2007 17:11 |
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whats everyones take on the new dc superheros from mattel
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Tartan Jack
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| Posted on 30-01-2007 18:58 |
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2 COMPLETELY different topics (I can't seem to find a connection).
two-face666,
start a new thread with that same question.
As for the topic, I seem to recall there was A LOT of confusion on the lisence on that one. One thing to note, are they direct movie tie-ins? Take-offs (oK by DC, but not direct to the movie)? Rip-offs (unliscenced cash-takers by the less than scrupulous)? Those are some factors in the "batmania" that was higher than initially expected.
Also, note that Toy Biz started the toys lines, then another took it over mid-batmania (Hasbro, but maybe Mattel-> I forget).
Some of Toy Biz's were actually better (like their Batcave), in my memory and opinion. Others like the larger/more well known replacement firm, which some are NOTABLY better.
Also, Ertl had part of the liscence and produced the die-cast stuff.
I remember it being VERY fragmented as to who made what.
Some of the more toy experts know A LOT more of the facts than I and have seen more than the die-casts and models in the last 15 years. The toys I had are MIA .
Sum Nox!
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BornAgainBatman
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| Posted on 30-01-2007 19:11 |
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i dont mind the different logo decals.
i am just geting into the vehicles so i dont know much
DCSH rules!!!!!
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Caleson
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| Posted on 30-01-2007 20:06 |
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batmania wrote:
I've noticed that with a great deal of my Batman vehicles I have inconsistant logo decals. With a couple I got the movie logo and with others I received the black bat on and a flat gold oval. In all the box pics as well as the catalog pics they used the movie logo. You're referring to the gold emblem that was also used on Batman figures' chests? Honestly, I think that more plain gold emblem looks better than the more detailed logo used in the theatrical poster. It's more simplified and the duller color fits the multi-colored vehicles better then the official movie logo would, which has a more colorful, orange-like tone. Off hand, I can't think of any Kenner vehicles that actually used the real movie logo. Were you comparing Toy Biz and Kenner by saying that your vehicles are inconsistent? They're both certainly worth of displaying, but I wouldn't really associate them too closely anyhow since they're somewhat different in overall design and approach.
One thing I do find annoying is that Kenner's Joker Cycle was shown in box and catalog art with little Joker head decals on the sides. Mine apparently didn't come with any. Observe the front box art...
The Joker Cycle
I've had quite a few other vehicles in the past like from Playmates' Ninja Turtles and Toxic Crusaders that showed additional decals in the catalog/prototype photos but didn't include them with the actual product. Even as a little kid I could notice this and become somewhat annoyed.
As far as Toy Biz is concerned, I actually have a Batmobile with generic yellow emblem decals rather than the usual movie styled ones. I'm guessing this was a variation, which I find pretty annoying considering the other vehicles have the movie emblem. I can't seem to find any others like this online.
two-face666 wrote:
whats everyones take on the new dc superheros from mattel We have some threads about this already, friend. These links should help ya out.
BYTB has a selection of thorough action figure reviews. CLICK HERE to find reviews/discussion on past and present figures.
The lastest series of DC SuperHeroes, Series 5, can be discussed HERE.
To create a thread so you can introduce yourself, CLICK HERE.
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| Posted on 30-01-2007 20:42 |
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batmania wrote:
I've noticed that with a great deal of my Batman vehicles I have inconsistant logo decals. With a couple I got the movie logo and with others I received the black bat on and a flat gold oval. In all the box pics as well as the catalog pics they used the movie logo. What gives? Did it cost more to produce the movie logo? I do have to say that even though Toy Biz takes a beating on the quality end they did at least have the movie logo on everything. How about you all? Have any of you went back and replaced the plain decals with the movie logo decals? I dunno why this irks me but it's just one of those things.
Which Logos on what vehicles exactly?
There is a generic Batman license the uses comic style artwork and logos. A lot of different items fall under this. Then there are Comic/Film/TV specific items that look like the property being licensed. So it all depends upon what you mean.
A lot of Batman vehicles have the Yellow Bat Logo, but The Dark Knight Collection used Gold rather than Yellow and the Batman Returns line used White instead of Yellow. Batman Forever used Green for a lot of the Bat Logos while Batman and Robin used Red and also used the movie themed ?dual? Batman / Robin Logo as well as the traditional Bat Oval.
Post a picture and lets have a look at what you mean.
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batmania
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| Posted on 31-01-2007 11:38 |
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Ok I'm kind of talking about what Caleson said. I have the Batjet, Batcopter, and the Strikewing. With the batcopter and the batjet i know they had the movie decals on the Kenner toy guides & even on the box on the back examples, but they have the flat colored ones on the decal sheet. Again with what Caleson said, it just bothered me as a kid (and know) when the vehicle didn't match the image on the box. But i was thinking on the side that they changed the logo because of costs.
Would you all go and change the decals to the ones on the batwing from toy biz or would you leave them flat gold? I have the equipment to do it and do it exactly to size, just seeking thoughts and advice on that one though. Thanks
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Caleson
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| Posted on 31-01-2007 13:29 |
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Good to know I was on the right topic of movie vehicles.  But I can certainly understand FlaBat's confusion.
To elaborate on what I said earlier, Toy Biz had only three Batman vehicles, all of which were virtually all black with the only additional color coming from the small, movie emblem decals. This style worked well for that collection; however Kenner's The Dark Knight Collection is a different story. That line had several vehicles, many of which featured different colors. Do you think, for instance, the actual movie emblem would have looked better on the wings of the blue & black Batcycle rather than the more plain, dull gold emblem they went with? With its dark color scheme, and various gold parts, I prefer the one they went with. If they'd have used the actual movie emblem, they'd definitely want to change the color of the side gun as well as the "eyes" on the front shield to a more orange-gold to fit the actual movie emblem. The darker, dull colors fit well, so during production, they probably realized that they'd have to make their own emblem decal to better suit this. Of course they'd want to make one fluent collection, so even vehicles that are largely black (the Batmobile, the Turbojet Batwing, etc.) would use that same dull colored decal.
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batmania
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Yeah that does make sense and probabaly the reason why the batjet doesn't have the bateyes on it in the kenner toy guide or packaging.
I'm curious as to what the toy biz batcycle look like? Would you recommend it? Also I was wondering what Toy Biz batman has the most "normal" looking face. Is the best looking one the regular, square jaw, or keaton variants? Can you remove his belt?
Thanks
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Caleson
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batmania wrote:
I'm curious as to what the toy biz batcycle look like? Would you recommend it? Also I was wondering what Toy Biz batman has the most "normal" looking face. Is the best looking one the regular, square jaw, or keaton variants?
Thanks Keep in mind, friend, that you've got the entire database of Batman action figures at your finger tips, just to the left on the Navigation menu.
Here's the Toy Biz Batcycle. In all honesty, I've never owned one and, as a kid, just vaguely remember seeing it in stores. I would definitely like one, though, to eventually have a complete Toy Biz Batman collection.
You may notice it looks quite similar to Kenner's version. But I'm pretty certain they're entirely different. CLICK HERE for the Batman (Toy Biz) Vehicles section in its entirety.
As for the Batman variations, if you want the most movie accurate, I'd probably go for either the "Keaton face" or the "round jaw" version. The "square jaw" is inaccurate right off the bat, as the actual cowl in the film left little jaw revealed, so that version looks more like George Clooney than anything. The round jaw is okay but looks plain and has a strange smirk, while the Keaton face is slightly puffier but looks decent in my opinion. See the variations at the link below...
Batman (Toy Biz) Action Figures
batmania wrote:
Yeah that does make sense and probabaly the reason why the batjet doesn't have the bateyes on it in the kenner toy guide or packaging. Actually, I believe it does...
Kenner Action Toy Guides
Also, tell me if you notice anything odd about the Batcycle photo.
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batmania
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| Posted on 01-02-2007 10:26 |
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Thats cool, yeah I had checked out the toy section but I didn't know if you could post a loose version or if somebody else could. Love the section by the way.
As for the batcycle it looks like they just skipped out on the decals for the guide? Also scratch the part I said about no bat eyes on the toy guide...in fact it's only missing on my box of the batcopter/batjet...I will post when i get home. The pic has the movie logo and no bateyes.
Thanks for the info on the toy biz batman, now if i can find a ebay with a detailed enough pic to know what I'm getting. But you're right the regular one looks like he has slanted eyes, somethin's def. wrong with it though. Thanks again!!
Oh yeah talkin about rememberin 'em on the shelf, it's crazy but i can remember like yesterday the huge shelf at kay-b-toys with all the 89 toy biz stuff. Man it was a fun time. I wore my '89 batmobile out that year....good times!
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batmania wrote:
Thats cool, yeah I had checked out the toy section but I didn't know if you could post a loose version or if somebody else could. Love the section by the way.
As for the batcycle it looks like they just skipped out on the decals for the guide? Actually, I was referring to the fact that they simply used a repainted Super Powers Batman to ride on it. It's very hard to tell and I never realized until recently noticing a gold SPC Batman being used for Tec Shield Batman on the early DKC cardbacks.
Glad you like the archives. As for a loose Toy Biz Batcycle image, I did some quick Google and eBay searches and couldn't come up with anything. I'll probably take some when I get to buying it myself. Still, you can get a good idea of it from the prototype photograph on the box, given that it doesn't vary extremely from the released product like the figures did (they obviously didn't use a repainted Super Powers Batman as shown on the cardback).
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Oh yeah talkin about rememberin 'em on the shelf, it's crazy but i can remember like yesterday the huge shelf at kay-b-toys with all the 89 toy biz stuff. Man it was a fun time. I wore my '89 batmobile out that year....good times! Absolutely! Some of my earliest memories are going to KB Toys in the mall and seeing the big display of Toy Biz Batman and DCCSH items - all that wonderful gold packaging covering the shelves. I still have my glow-in-the-dark bat emblem T-shirt too. It's so tiny now, but the memories are indeed gargantuan.
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Caleson wrote:
Also, tell me if you notice anything odd about the Batcycle photo.
The cape is tucked up under Batman's butt and not free flowing?
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Caleson
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| Posted on 01-02-2007 20:17 |
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FlaBat wrote:
The cape is tucked up under Batman's butt and not free flowing? Hahah. No, I was actually referring to the DKC Batcycle photo shown in the Kenner Action Toy Guide (which you thankfully scanned for us). I probably should've been more specific about that. Batmania took a guess earlier; the conversation ran:
batmania wrote:
As for the batcycle it looks like they just skipped out on the decals for the guide? Actually, I was referring to the fact that they simply used a repainted Super Powers Batman to ride on it. It's very hard to tell and I never realized until recently noticing a gold SPC Batman being used for Tec Shield Batman on the early DKC cardbacks.
Again, sorry I wasn't more specific, friend. 
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batmania
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Haha yep that sure is the ole SP batman. I remember seeing him on the back of my joker figs card and thinking...I gotta have that...didn't know you could never really own that version!!
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Ok here's the pic I was talking about. No bateyes just the movie logo for the batjet in this pic. It's on the back of my batcopter box by the way.
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